Hello friends, hope you're having a great beggining of 2020. The topic I want to talk about is baccarat betting systems while playing sessions in order to minimize the loss risking. 

I know many use Martingale betting system, but i don't really feel comfort with those systems because you can either have no enough money for the next bet in case of a bad streak (which is common in this game) or you could exceed the table bet limit. 

I actually have a betting system that have helped me a lot to minimizing the loss risk and it stands as follow: Let's say we have a $10 unit for betting.

• Let's assume you win, then the next step is to bet your initial 10 plus the winnings of the previous bet. So --> 10+10 = 20. 20 will be the bet now.
• Next, let's suppose you win again, so now you have a $40 now in just 2 passes. 
• The next step is to keep/save $20 in your stack, and re-bet the remaining $20 for the selection you like. So at this step, if you win, you will make $50 with just $10 in just 3 baccarat bets. But if you lose at this stem, you will still have a $10 profit without losing any money from your pocket.

I know this system could have it's limitations, I find the principal limitation in a 5% banker comission table (obviously this applies if you have a banker bet). Also, that you need to hit a hot 3 streak to make this system work.

I don't really know if this system have a specific name, if you know I would be happy to know the name.

My principle about baccarat is that it's a game where the decisions of the past aren't going to be as reliable to determine the decisions of the future (unless you are recording the cards that have appeared in the shoe, which is very difficult for a person who is betting and calculating probabilities). I mention this because I see in the casinos many people recording in their sheets what came out or basing on the screens to generate a trend and give themselves courage to place their next bet. But let's face it, there are thousands of criteria for you to interpret a trend, so my opinion is that it is useless to rely on the past to try to "guess" what will happen next.

With what I write in here, I don't expect everyone to agree, on the contrary, what I want is to create an attractive debate where the different points of view and betting systems of all of us are raised and questioned.

I know that many people have taken time and money to generate their own strategies, and that some will not want to share them, but, in case you want to share with this great community your strategy to minimize the risk of losses, personally it would be very grateful in advance.

We must remember that the essence of our play is to make some cash and beat the house.

I am very happy that this forum exists to improve the betting techniques in this wonderful game.

The game follows statistics, probability. Of course, you don't know what the next bet going to be exactly, but we play with chances. So let's say if you have long run of bankers, then probability to have another banker in the next hand is shrinking. Thats why some people increase size of bet when losing. 

Sure, I saw long run of 15 - but this is extraordinary situations. You have to protect yourself somehow from them, like to have for example stop loss. 

Same with any other patterns, if you generate enough number of shoes you will se a lot of different patterns that you can try to play. 

I think your method is very similar to the Paroli progression, which is considered a positive progressive.  https://www.casinoreviewsquad.com/betting-systems/the-paroli-betting-system/

I've been having a little luck using the Fibonacci method which is considered a negative progression, but keeps me somewhat comfortable with the amounts. Basically, it goes 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21., and so on. If you will notice, the amount of the wager is the sum of the previous 2 wagers if you lose one.

For example:

1+1=2

1+2=3

2+3=5

3+5=8

5+8=13

8+13=21

If you win a wager, you go back 2 steps and that will be your next wager amount. Depending upon if you win or not, will determine if you move up or down from that point. You can Google it and see more detail, but this is the jist of it. If you modify it a bit and step down just one amount off a win, you can usually be up 1 unit after 2 wins in a row. If it gets too uncomfortable, you can always take a small loss and start over with a new sequence. The key is to stay in the game and not let any form of money management sink you. Common sense says, it's easier to recoup 5 units, than sticking with something that has your wagers out of control. Let's say you play up to risking 8 units, this means you will lose 20 units total if that wager loses. If it wins however, you'll still be down 4 units, but hey, you're still in the game and can grind it out. Especially if you're still showing profit for your session.

Hope this helps.

That's right, it's something that I always mention when I'm at the casino ... you have to play with the probability of things, that's why I feel that a trend is less likely to repeat exactly the same way as 15 previous plays arrived.

I think that a fundamental element in the game of Baccarat is the control of the bets and, above all, the luck to win the heavy hands.

I really thank you for sharing your point of view.

I very much appreciate the detail of the answer, something I had heard from the context of the Fibonacci series and its famous gold number. However, I had not heard of applying it in betting strategy. I will investigate a little more on the subject and try to apply it in the next session to see if it works for me.

Thank you very much for the tip and good luck in your next sessions.

I think your method is very similar to the Paroli progression, which is considered a positive progressive.  https://www.casinoreviewsquad.com/betting-systems/the-paroli-betting-system/

I've been having a little luck using the Fibonacci method which is considered a negative progression, but keeps me somewhat comfortable with the amounts. Basically, it goes 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21., and so on. If you will notice, the amount of the wager is the sum of the previous 2 wagers if you lose one.

For example:

1+1=2

1+2=3

2+3=5

3+5=8

5+8=13

8+13=21

If you win a wager, you go back 2 steps and that will be your next wager amount. Depending upon if you win or not, will determine if you move up or down from that point. You can Google it and see more detail, but this is the jist of it. If you modify it a bit and step down just one amount off a win, you can usually be up 1 unit after 2 wins in a row. If it gets too uncomfortable, you can always take a small loss and start over with a new sequence. The key is to stay in the game and not let any form of money management sink you. Common sense says, it's easier to recoup 5 units, than sticking with something that has your wagers out of control. Let's say you play up to risking 8 units, this means you will lose 20 units total if that wager loses. If it wins however, you'll still be down 4 units, but hey, you're still in the game and can grind it out. Especially if you're still showing profit for your session.

Hope this helps.

Here's a nice link to multiple management strategies. https://www.casinoencyclopedia.com/betting_systems/#bs8

Click on a link in the list and then click on the title again and it will take you to another page that will detail the strategy even further.

Some seem to be the the same (or similar at least), but I'm sure you can find something here that suits your needs. I've been using the Deance Progression and playing opposite of last for 2 times and then waiting for a single if I lose two in a row. 

https://www.casinoencyclopedia.com/deance_progression/

Hope this helps,

DP

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